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Should there Be MMSF4?
Topic Started: Mar 7 2011, 09:53 AM (3,966 Views)
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Should There Be MMSF4 Or Not. I Think there should be and it would be on PS3 Or N3DS That Would Be Epic :)
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Sure, why not? BN3 looked very much like a finale, and look what came after... three more games.
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No. There should not. It will just end up like BN4. I think I remember posting some really long post sometime about how I didn't want a SF4.. Wonder where it went.
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Nah, I really don't think there should. They ended 3 on how they started one, Geo finding his Father. What further purpose or motivation could Geo have now?
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Nope, Starforce 3 ended fairly well. I don't want to see Capcom mess up with an unnecessary game added to the series.
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Plus they're already making an OCW for it.
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I don't think they should
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Right now.

The series has gotten climatic and the OCW is around the corner, so a SF4 would be terrible timing.
But, it would be nice to see the series be revived later on for the 3DS or something, making it still kinda epic. I understand why people make the BN4 comparisons, but we can hope CAPCOM learns from its mistakes. How? By continuing the tension and not including the flaws from BN4 or simply not to introduce new flaws at all.

CAPCOM can do this, they just have to build up hype.

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MMSF4? Capcom will just mess up as bad as what they did to their experiment of BN4. Geo already found his father, so why bother continue the series?
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Until they do the entire thing in 3D(no sprites) without 50% of bosses being rehashes, expand on noises, actually make the battle system BETTER, with an actually decent plot, there should not be an SF4. In fact, let's just wait 10 years first k? That's the best solution.
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Just because he found his father, the series should just end? There's no reason that the story cannot introduce anything new.

On the issue of BN4: honestly, it was horrible only because of A- the stupid tournaments, B- an unnecessary amount of sideplots and C- forced replayability (two times, if you wanted everything). But BN4 also had good parts such as the DoubleSoul system and the ability to start over without losing everything you collected (the idea of replayability in itself is something I support, or at least additional save slots, not the part where it forced you to), even the story was digestable and I liked some of the characters.
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Just because he found his father, the series should just end? There's no reason that the story cannot introduce anything new.
SF3 is mainly all about Geo's Father. Usually the first game as the series will tell you what the game is mainly about. If you can tell, about half of SF3 and 1 were about Geo's Father. Sure, they could introduce something new, but that would defeat the whole purpose of the game, and what possible new things could happen? Don't say Solo defeating Geo or the couples getting married!
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Don't say Solo defeating Geo or the couples getting married!
Solo defeating Geo or the couples getting married [marq][rbw]i said it bon :P [/rbw][/marq]
who knows what could happen? Maybe geo could be on planet FM helping the other EM beings fight another race or trying to stop the dealer organization for good.
SF4 could be a good idea. Just hope that capcom actually takes the time to actually make it
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They would have to provide a new motivation for everything even if they did do it. A new reason for Geo to actually do stuff on top of that, his dads there. That just means that Geo really wouldn't have to do anything since his Dads BA.
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You guys need to realize it is not impossible for SF4 to be a good game. SF3 was a big step for the series; it almost made it "grow" in a sense.

The story can go on easily, look: BN1 was with Dr. Wily, BN2 was with Gospel, but then BN3 was with Dr. Wily's WWW again. BN4-5 were both with Dr. Regal, but then Dr. Wily returns once more for BN6. What happened here? Dr. Wily returned time and time again, even after defeat. Even Dr. Regal returned after his defeat once. So why can't SF's story be repeated? I mean, Kelvin being an astronaut in SF4 and being held hostage in space wouldn't be a bad idea. We could even avoid that and simply stray from Kelvin being the motivation this time; let's say the mom get kidnapped or something else.

Duo coming back would also make the game seem more serious; it would help bring in BN fans too.

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You guys need to realize it is not impossible for SF4 to be a good game. SF3 was a big step for the series; it almost made it "grow" in a sense. The story can go on easily, look: BN1 was with Dr. Wily, BN2 was with Gospel, but then BN3 was with Dr. Wily's WWW again. BN4-5 were both with Dr. Regal, but then Dr. Wily returns once more for BN6. What happened here? Dr. Wily returned time and time again, even after defeat. Even Dr. Regal returned after his defeat once. So why can't SF's story be repeated? I mean, Kelvin being an astronaut in SF4 and being held hostage in space wouldn't be a bad idea. We could even avoid that and simply stray from Kelvin being the motivation this time; let's say the mom get kidnapped or something else. Duo coming back would also make the game seem more serious; it would help bring in BN fans too.
Problem... Cepheus is now good, Vega died when Le Mu was destroyed, and King was destroyed with Meteor G >_> Only villians that would return would technically be Rogue and Black Phantom.

But there is a big risk with what you propose Preacher. First off, if Duo returns, then yes it would bring in BN fans. But wait, SF is normally released in Japan first, meaning all the NA idiots either watch the gameplay vids on youtube or get illegal copies >_> And then if Duo isn't done right.... SF4 instantly gets screwed over in NA.

And just pointing out that ugh Kelvin's been in space for along time now >_> You'd think he'd be tired of it and just want to spend time with his family? Just work with his friend Boreal at WAZA maybe? And kidnapping is technically overused... Afterall that's more of a Nintendo thing now...

And BN did it right in a sense for story. It was more Lan just being in the right place at the wrong time when it first starts out each time. SF just shoved you against the villians right from the start with no suspense or anything. Heck, first boss each time tells you the entire plot in a nutshell. And you know it >_> SF1: Omega-xis is running from Planet FM who are going to invade/destroy Earth(Taurus and Omega say it all), SF2: Phantom works with organization which uses the power of ancient beings to achieve its needs, SF3: Group called dealer using 'Noise Cards' to gain Crimson(this one is actually the most vague, almost BN plot quality)
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I actually like SF's story (excluding 2). It was a hell lot better than EXE, especially in the character department. Each character has a story unlike EXE where they're mostly one-tone. And holy crap, Geo isn't all happy-go-lucky right off the bat. We actually get to see him develop as the story progresses. 1-Finding Friendship, 2-Keeping the Bonds, 3-Purpose to fight.

I actually wouldn't mind a SF4, but only if it follows EXE where 3 almost got the game play right, and 4 finally nailing it.
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Well you see that's what im saying, all it takes is for CAPCOM to get it right.

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MMBN4 got the hate that he deserved,fact.

But,the game is not bad at all,it's just have a horrible sense of singleplayer.

The game is actually the second best multiplayer between the others,a more balanced version of MMBN2.


the Multiple-times-story complete and Story-all-based-on-tournament is crappy too.


But still,BN4 have interesting chips,and Dark Chips is fun,altough Capcom like to mess good things,like the -1hp syndrome.Then the game can be a little more balanced.

Or at least a way(Pretty hard to) recover all you hp lost to the dark chips.

Also I liked the graphics enchancement here.

So basicaly,the game is nice,but somewhat a major fail to singleplayer improvement while they did a pretty good multiplayer,altough you can't play multiplayer on emulators,this point is pretty much discarted,at same way very few people talk about it.I don't blame for the major number of haters though,they have a good reasons o hate.

Sry for bad english
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All you have to make 4 fun is transfer the navis over to the other version. And you can do that on an emu, of course I did it on a real cart... You get to fight the other version navis in the tournaments, make the entire Internet a boss zone, and battle in Free Tournament for new chips. 4 also has one of the more balanced chip selections, and I think Soul Unison is the best EXE transformation. It's also the only EXE game where you can replay the game over and over as a level 100. The only thing that prevent 4 from being the best EXE game is the non-existant story, and even then the 'Darkness in all light' concept sounds really good.

I'm getting off-topic though, this thread is supposed to be for SSR4.
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All you have to make 4 fun is transfer the navis over to the other version. And you can do that on an emu, of course I did it on a real cart... You get to fight the other version navis in the tournaments, make the entire Internet a boss zone, and battle in Free Tournament for new chips. 4 also has one of the more balanced chip selections, and I think Soul Unison is the best EXE transformation. It's also the only EXE game where you can replay the game over and over as a level 100. The only thing that prevent 4 from being the best EXE game is the non-existant story, and even then the 'Darkness in all light' concept sounds really good.

I'm getting off-topic though, this thread is supposed to be for SSR4.
Not to much tough,it is undoubtly related to SF4.

Indeed,BN4 is the second best multiplayer around on BN series,he just lose to BN6.

I agree to the concept Darkness in all light tough.

I don't like the replay story though,because BN4 have the most annoying mini-games around,and you need to do them over and over and over,and when you on the final part,you have to duel maybe the most difficult boss in BN series,it's not bad to fight a epic boss on the end,and maybe is the only reason that you should do alot of story-replays(GOLDEN DUO IS OSSIM MAN!).

You is the first person that I saw that did a good rate on this really-overhated game.I agree with you that the game is a very good game,I shocked to see that you said that is the 2nd best BN game,I think you right on this point.BN5 is a crap,I only play to make DS Megaman videos(I already posted some on TREZ).I don't know what worse to a multiplayer,MMBN 3 brokeness or MMBN 5 boredom,you invicincible with invis,and there very few attacks that ierces invis(Only 2 species of S codes chip)

MMBN 3 is broken off the scale,you can just win the multiplayer battle pressing A.Literally.

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"What you and I see are totally different.
All you're seeing is life. You don't understand death at all. That's why you can't kill me, and you're only able to kill a weakened woman.
If you could see death, you couldn't maintain your sanity. All you can perceive is the part which keeps things alive.
If you could see death——you couldn't even manage to stand.
... Being able to see the 'death' of things mean you're forced to see the world's fragility and uncertainty.
The ground is like it's not there, and the sky seems about to fall at any moment.
... You don't know of the illusion that the whole world could perish in an instant.
That is what it means to see death. These eyes, this power isn't something you can boast about like you did.
That's your mistake, vampire. Life and death may be back to back, but they shall never face each other.
I'll show you.
This is what it means to kill something."
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