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| Topic Started: Feb 27 2011, 04:09 PM (10,989 Views) | |
| Doom | Feb 27 2011, 04:09 PM Post #1 |
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2011 TREZ Pokémon Tournament Hosted by Yatterman-2 aka Torchman Rules written by Saberman Entries Begin: February 28, 2011 Entries End: April 13, 2011 (will be extended if there are not enough competitors) Round 1 Begins: April 19, 2011 (6 days given to give the host(s) time to prepare the brackets) ~Tournament Rules~ -All battles will be fought 6 on 6 Single Battle style using Pokémon Online, a battle simulator. The program could be found here: http://www.pokemon-online.eu/ *Regarding the Program* 1. Use the Team Builder to build your team. This program prevents ALL cheating, so illegal movesets or stats are not possible. Please keep and utilize all 510 EVs available. If you need help building teams as far as strategy goes, use this link to help you out. 2. Please create your Trainer using your current TREZ name to make it easy to recognize you. 3. A server will be created especially for TREZ to use for the tournament so non-TREZians cannot access the server. The name and password to enter the server will be posted shortly. 4. During EACH match in the tourney, AT LEAST 2 users must have Pokémon Online open, present on the aforementioned server,and select "Become a Spectator/Watch This Battle" and become spectators. These two or more users will be watching the battle to the end and observing the battle logs. This is to have a witness for disconnects and/or be rules consultants/judges (i.e., someone uses a Pokémon that they didn't register, use Gen. 5 stuff, etc.) Banned Pokemon and Abilities -Entrants may register two additional Pokémon (aside from their team of 6) to swap into their team between battles. If a competitor is caught using a Pokémon aside from the total of 8 registered, that competitor will be disqualified. -There will be 32 total entrants in the tournament. If there is not enough it will be cut down to 16. Final Notes: Prize will be announced later on. Please post any questions here. Post Entries in this thread using the following template: Trainer Name: Pokémon Roster (6): - - - - - - Sub Pokémon (2): - - Participants Glaceon is Love Deleterious Serenade Saberman SurviveOdin Yatterman-2 XxGaMeR718 Ablon Edited by Doom, Apr 8 2011, 09:06 AM.
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| Yes | Mar 21 2011, 07:16 PM Post #121 |
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Sorry about the double post, I lagged pretty bad for a minute. Gen V has so much more new stuff than gen IV does, its got so many new good abilities coupled with new moves on once bad pokemon. Half of the old pokemon people never thought about are being used on a new level for the first time. Edited by Yes, Mar 21 2011, 07:20 PM.
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| Saberman | Mar 21 2011, 07:28 PM Post #122 |
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That's both a bad thing and a good thing at the same time. Good because it promotes variety, bad because, according to what you said, Gen. V contains a lot more broken stuff. Could you go through some of that aforementioned broken stuff? Saves me some time in research. RE: Shandera, we cannot just ban a single ability or move because there is no way of telling that the Pokemon has it until the battle itself, and that might cause problems if the Pokemon with the offending move isn't sent out until the end, because that would void the whole battle, and if it was nicely fought by both players until that moment, that would kill the spirit of the game. Besides, some Pokemon were made Ubers entirely because of one moveset or move. The Wobbuffet family as well as Garchomp to an extent are good examples of this. Wobbuffet was banned solely for Shadow Tag (though, this is a bad example because he has no other ability). Granted, Garchomp has superb stats, but he was banned primarily due to the Yache set. Edited by Saberman, Mar 21 2011, 07:36 PM.
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| Yes | Mar 21 2011, 07:48 PM Post #123 |
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I mean, I guess you're right on the Shandera issue. I was just thinking on Smogon terms (which are a bit messed up). Smogon banned Shadow Tag as an ability and then kept Shandera in OU (if I remember right). Smogon also banned any team with Drizzle and Swift swim in it. The broken stuff in Gen V... Theres a new ability called contrary. It basically says that if I lower my stats, they'll rise. And vice versa. Only 5 pokemon in the game have it, but out of those 5 Serperior is noted and used. Put a choice scarf on that thing with 252 Speed Ev's and leaf storm away. 140 base damage and +2 special attack after each hit. Inconsistents also another new thing. Can't remember how many pokemon learn it because the only one who ever uses it is Smergal. This ability gives little children nightmares at night time. At the end of each turn in increases one stat and lowers another. Send out Smergal, use spore to send something to sleep, then shell bash it up (-2 Sp Def, -2 Def. +2Sp Atk, +2Atk, +2 Speed) then baton bass into a bulky dragon or water pokemon and sweep the team. Its so easy to set up and soo fun to do (I've used it a lot). Prankster is annoying if you don't know how to handle it. Pretty much it says if your move doesn't do outright damage, its going first. So moves like Will-O-Wisp, Substitute, Recover, Stun Spore, Spore, etc, are always gonna go first. And the pokemon that get it have nice movesets to go with it as well. Sableyes the biggest pain in the world because of this ability. Will-O-Wisp the team have a nice leftovers on him along with recover and sub and just watch the enemy team burn. Magic Coats annoying but its not anything to cry over. Its pretty much for Espeon. It says that if you use stealth rocks, leach seed, toxic, or anything else like that while the magic coat pokemon is out, your move gets reflected back at you. Ferrathorn trying to Leech Seed a low hp pokemon for a quick kill/heal and you switch out into magic coat Espeon and you're leech seed is nulled (it would bounce back but it doesn't effect Ferrathorn). Thats all I can really think of right now. I wouldn't consider banning all of them or else half of the Meta goes away. |
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| Dramz | Mar 21 2011, 07:51 PM Post #124 |
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Finally downloaded Pokemon Online. I've set up my trainer and team. No Legendaries, Pseudo Legendaries, or Ubers. When is the server going to be made? Edited by Dramz, Mar 21 2011, 07:52 PM.
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| Saberman | Mar 21 2011, 07:51 PM Post #125 |
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I'm not considering banning any of those yet, I just wanted to keep them in consideration. Also, Magic Coat is an older move. It's from Gen. IV, maybe even before. Not too sure exactly when, but it's before V. I think you mean Magic Mirror. @Ablon: When we have the minimum number of participants signed up. Otherwise, there's no point of creating it yet. Edited by Saberman, Mar 21 2011, 07:54 PM.
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| Yes | Mar 21 2011, 07:55 PM Post #126 |
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It got put as an ability now. No wasting a turn to set it up.
Edited by Yes, Mar 21 2011, 07:55 PM.
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| Dramz | Mar 21 2011, 07:55 PM Post #127 |
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Well, can Torch add my name to the list. I also really wanna trial my team. Know any active servers? |
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| Saberman | Mar 21 2011, 07:57 PM Post #128 |
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Just go into any of them that aren't empty, lol. Preferably the ones with over 10 active members. The huge mainstream ones are at the top, that's where the stiff competition is at. |
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| Dramz | Mar 21 2011, 07:59 PM Post #129 |
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Only 2 appear for me![]() Troubleshooting time? Edited by Dramz, Mar 21 2011, 08:00 PM.
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| Yes | Mar 21 2011, 08:03 PM Post #130 |
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You using a mac? |
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| Dramz | Mar 21 2011, 08:04 PM Post #131 |
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Windows VM, so its just using Windows 7. |
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| Yes | Mar 21 2011, 08:07 PM Post #132 |
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See if this works? http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?1083-No-servers-are-loading&s=8330c26cbe34719016f407cd52f39434 I dunno. |
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| Dramz | Mar 21 2011, 08:10 PM Post #133 |
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I can connect to one of the 2 servers there, its just empty. |
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| SurviveOdin | Mar 21 2011, 11:58 PM Post #134 |
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I haven't exactly been following...Is the tourney Gen V now? Anyways, If Basic Connections won't work for you, Ablon then try keying this in instead on advanced connections? It's the IP Address for PO's Main Server (or so i've heard) which is where i play BTW: 91.121.73.228:5080 If that doesn't work then i'll shoot through to find more solutions. EDIT: I usually get that error message of yours when there are server maintenance, Probably a System Error? I dunno. Edited by SurviveOdin, Mar 21 2011, 11:59 PM.
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| Dramz | Mar 22 2011, 01:41 AM Post #135 |
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I'm in, the problem was with the uni net connection. |
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| Saberman | Mar 22 2011, 07:34 PM Post #136 |
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It is, but we're trying to research a bit and dig out all the potential Ubers other than the ones Smogon already found before re-opening the tournament. It's on hold. |
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| SurviveOdin | Mar 23 2011, 02:31 AM Post #137 |
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Cool, Then allow me to help by sharing these: Wi-fi: Gen 5 March 2011 Official OU Gen 5 March 2011 Offical BL Gen 5 March 2011 Official UU Gen 5 March 2011 Official LU Tier Cresselia is banned for LU BTW, and Azelf is now BL, who would've thought? and for you guys who wanna play Dream World: Dream World: Dream World OU Dream World BL Dream World UU Dream World LU Borderlines are the same BTW. and for the part you've all been waiting for -I present- Ubers! Dream World:
Wi-fi:
Whew..that took a good 15 minutes of my time now if you will excuse me.. Edited by SurviveOdin, Mar 23 2011, 11:34 PM.
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| Saberman | Mar 23 2011, 07:13 PM Post #138 |
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That's odd, neither of the ones we were discussing made it on the Ubers list. I trust Smogon, they're the battling aficionados, so we'll go with that. Should we consider banning Haxorus and other potentially OPs just for this tournament? Some of the ones who may potentially sign up for this may not be into competitive as much as some of us so they might not know how to counter it as well. |
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| Doom | Mar 23 2011, 07:21 PM Post #139 |
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Hey that list is the same as the one Glaceon posted. I said no because all it did was ban the two obvious ubers and missed the third member of the trio the two title pokemon are in. Furthermore why does it ban just one Deoxys? BAN THEM ALL. |
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| Saberman | Mar 23 2011, 07:24 PM Post #140 |
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There's a reason for these specific bans. You have to play the actual Gen. 5 metagame before jumping to conclusions. You can't just assume that everything in the metagame has stayed the same. Whenever a new generation comes out, there's always a DRASTIC change in the metagame. Smogon is the one that creates all of the uber lists, battle strategies, etc. What they choose to do is nearly guaranteed to be the right move. What if certain Pokemon didn't make the list because they have easy counters? Example, Deoxys. I believe there's a counter for it now. Edited by Saberman, Mar 23 2011, 07:26 PM.
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